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MISSING MH370: Radar data suggests plane flown deliberately toward Andaman
KUALA LUMPUR: Military radar-tracking evidence suggests a Malaysia Airlines jetliner missing for nearly a week was deliberately flown across the Malay peninsula towards the Andaman Islands....still a stretch but hopefully a chance for passenger survival. (www.nst.com.my) Altro...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
"the Boeing 777 family, has a range of 5,240 nautical miles (9,700 kilometres), according to the Boeing website. Its typical cruising speed at 35,000 feet is Mach 0.84." It is very possible the plane flew longer than 4-5 hours. They may have figured out how to kill the Boeing/RR telemetering of engine data or landed somewhere and disabled it and flew longer...much longer.
The Washington Post is now report the plane flew for 7 hours (probably at least 3500 miles). Hard to believe after flying that long it ended up in the Ocean.
Additionally the reported wild altitude changes early on in the Flight were probably maneuvers to incapacitate the cabin crew and any passengers not belted into their seats...probably inflicted severe injuries. It would surprise me to hear the pax had their O2 shut off to take them out of the equation as nearly 300 frightened people would be difficult to control for a long period.
Additionally the reported wild altitude changes early on in the Flight were probably maneuvers to incapacitate the cabin crew and any passengers not belted into their seats...probably inflicted severe injuries. It would surprise me to hear the pax had their O2 shut off to take them out of the equation as nearly 300 frightened people would be difficult to control for a long period.
That newer potential Flight length may open up an whole new world of options. There's Yemen with terroristic aims. Somalia with piracy. And Iran with it's need for a long-range clandestine delivery device.
The terrorists and the Iranians would be the most capable of pilling it off. The terrorists as non-state actors would have the least to lose. The Iranians have much to lose as they are on a path to give up the path to nukes in exchange for lifting of sanctions. But a rogue element of their covert operatives might take up this challenge.
But I'd figure the best bet would be in terrorism and the plane would be in Yemen somewhere.
But it's hard to ignore that Iranians were snuck onto this plane with falsified travel documents (that had been previously stolen). Their cover story is that they were joining family in Europe. That their family traveled to Europe via a similar illegal manner, and were waiting for them, doesn't discount the possibility that they were covert operatives.
Who knows what happened to this plane and its' occupants. But hope we find out soon, so we can out these wild theories to rest.
The terrorists and the Iranians would be the most capable of pilling it off. The terrorists as non-state actors would have the least to lose. The Iranians have much to lose as they are on a path to give up the path to nukes in exchange for lifting of sanctions. But a rogue element of their covert operatives might take up this challenge.
But I'd figure the best bet would be in terrorism and the plane would be in Yemen somewhere.
But it's hard to ignore that Iranians were snuck onto this plane with falsified travel documents (that had been previously stolen). Their cover story is that they were joining family in Europe. That their family traveled to Europe via a similar illegal manner, and were waiting for them, doesn't discount the possibility that they were covert operatives.
Who knows what happened to this plane and its' occupants. But hope we find out soon, so we can out these wild theories to rest.
The logistics involved with having a clandestine parking spot ready would argue against a terrorist group absent the support of a nation/state. I think there would be too many resources watching the activities in Somalia to expect to place it there undetected. The Irani travelers is circumstantial, but Irani culture has a history of long term, even generation-spanning planning.
As I've posted elsewhere, there is a lot not being said. I suppose it is possible that some government(s) are in contact with the perpetrators and are keeping a lid on it for unknown reasons. An Entebbe style raid perhaps?
As I've posted elsewhere, there is a lot not being said. I suppose it is possible that some government(s) are in contact with the perpetrators and are keeping a lid on it for unknown reasons. An Entebbe style raid perhaps?
Both Somalia and Yemen have vast tracts of territory controlled by thugs, whether they be of the pirate or terrorist variety. They could easily take control of any large hangar or warehouse in their territory or build a camouflage cover to hide a 777.
A 777 is big but its' dimensions are known. Take minimal planning to arrange for an existing space inside of a large enough empty or unused building in your territory. It just needs to be close enough to a runway that is long enough to land the plane.
All of these countries are off the Indian Ocean, so the plane can be brought in directly without overflying other countries' territory or airspace.
Remember this would've all happened BEFORE Malaysia announced that one of their planes was missing. Even though the Vietnamese informed that that active radar contact was lost just after 1am, and their own military lost passive radar contact of the plane after 2am, the announcement didn't come until the following morning AFTER the plane had not arrived at Beijing without explanation.
The opportunity to warn the world that there was a plane lost full of passengers with its' transponders off was allowed to pass with inaction.
It seems that the Malaysians did not scramble any fighters to intercept or even inspect the unknown bogey during a known security crisis (a missing passenger airliner with 239 souls aboard qualifies as an emergency in my thinking), but they also deprived the rest of the world the opportunity to look for the missing plane while it was still aloft.
Having the world's militaries looking for the plane while it was flying, could've led to a very different outcome.
A 777 is big but its' dimensions are known. Take minimal planning to arrange for an existing space inside of a large enough empty or unused building in your territory. It just needs to be close enough to a runway that is long enough to land the plane.
All of these countries are off the Indian Ocean, so the plane can be brought in directly without overflying other countries' territory or airspace.
Remember this would've all happened BEFORE Malaysia announced that one of their planes was missing. Even though the Vietnamese informed that that active radar contact was lost just after 1am, and their own military lost passive radar contact of the plane after 2am, the announcement didn't come until the following morning AFTER the plane had not arrived at Beijing without explanation.
The opportunity to warn the world that there was a plane lost full of passengers with its' transponders off was allowed to pass with inaction.
It seems that the Malaysians did not scramble any fighters to intercept or even inspect the unknown bogey during a known security crisis (a missing passenger airliner with 239 souls aboard qualifies as an emergency in my thinking), but they also deprived the rest of the world the opportunity to look for the missing plane while it was still aloft.
Having the world's militaries looking for the plane while it was flying, could've led to a very different outcome.
I pulled out an old fashioned old school globe a few days ago, and used the two-finger compass method to come to essentially the same conclusions. Thanks for giving us the official technical explanation.
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To get the the Middle Easy in that direction would require overflying India. That doesn't sound like a good idea.
Loooking at flying South of India, I found a course along jetway P756, intersecting it at NISOK.
At 500 mph, 4 1/2 hours would take it just South of the tip of India. Would that leave enough fuel to reach somewhere in the MidEast? If not, perhaps we should discount finding it at Imam Khomeini Int'l Airport in Tehran.