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Autoland Is Garmin's Newest Safety Feature

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For the past eight years, Garmin has secretly been working on a fascinating new capability, an autoland function that can rescue an airplane with an incapacitated pilot or save a pilot when weather conditions present no other safe option. Autoland should soon receive its first FAA approval, with certification expected shortly in the Piper M600, followed by the Cirrus Vision Jet. (www.ainonline.com) Altro...

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airuphere
airuphere 17
Watch the video - it’s cool, talks to the passengers, lowers gear.. atc.. does it all. Truly an emergency only product.
bbabis
Bill Babis 21
Game changer! I hope the models supported and retrofits roll out quickly. Many, many corporate buyers will line up for this technology. Well done Garmin.
cdierking44
Chris Dierking 5
Not great news for career pilots. One step closer to designing the pilot put altogether.
bbabis
Bill Babis 7
Plenty of jobs out there Chris and more to come. I see this technology mostly for those that operate single pilot anyway.
wrap23
Don Spence 3
If the Airlines and powers at be have there way, those “single pilots” will have 250 people sitting behind them
E1craZ4life
Edward Bardes 2
Germanwings dashed any hope of a single pilot future beyond hope of recovery.
f4fntm
john doe 2
Because having two pilots saved the day in that instance?
E1craZ4life
Edward Bardes -1
One of them locked himself in the cockpit by himself.
f4fntm
john doe 2
My point exactly.
E1craZ4life
Edward Bardes 0
If there was a flight attendant holding the captain's seat while he was out, the crash wouldn't have happened.
f4fntm
john doe 1
[eye roll]
E1craZ4life
Edward Bardes 0
No, really. Even if the flight attendant didn't know how to control the plane, it would be obvious what the first officer was doing, and the flight attendant would've let the captain back into the cockpit when he returned, and action would be taken to stop the first officer in his tracks.
wingbolt
wingbolt -9
Based on their target market it might be better if the pilot stays home anyway.
bbabis
Bill Babis 12
Not everyone can be a high time professional or afford to hire one for every flight. Precious cargo is precious cargo and they deserve the safest travel possible.
wingbolt
wingbolt -4
It’s always the same argument. Safety, safety, safety....unless it’s too expensive or inconvenient. Your argument implies precious cargo has its limitations...price.
RECOR10
RECOR10 1
It does....like it or not, that is the reality. UPS for example expects X number of packages to be destroyed in one way or another.
wingbolt
wingbolt 0
Precious cargo, as you put it deserve a second pilot. Pilot error is overwhelmingly the cause of aircraft accidents, not a pilot that is having some type of medical event. Auto-land won’t do squat for stall/spin, continued flight into adverse weather, or CFIT accidents.
benthurston
Ben Thurston 4
Actually, it will help with continued flight into adverse weather. A pilot who ends up low on fuel with all airports within range below minimums, or who is not instrument rated and unable to program an approach in the autopilot needs only to activate this feature and sit tight while Auto-land declares an emergency, and flies to the nearest airport with a GPS approach and lands, even in zero-zero conditions.
wingbolt
wingbolt 0
Thus my comment that it might be better if the pilot stays home.
bbabis
Bill Babis 2
If you read the article you would have read that this technology is scaleable up and down and soon coming to single engine pistons. In a single It's hard to put a co-pilot onboard if you want to carry your family but a few more systems boxes is doable. And this technology has the capability of reducing every type of accident/incident you mentioned.
wingbolt
wingbolt 0
I did read the article. Doesn’t sound to me that it’s going to be offered in smaller GA type aircraft. Unless you can put a G3000 with auto throttle and auto brakes in a V-tail Bonanza. I seriously doubt this is a “couple thousand” dollar upgrade. Probably more like 250k. The system that keeps a G1000 aircraft from losing control at one time was a 50K option.
bbabis
Bill Babis 7
This would put an end to a dry humor joke I sometimes use with other pilots. I say that my pilot's prayer is always, "Dear Lord, please let me die peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather and not screaming and yelling like his passengers."
ssobol
Stefan Sobol 3
New Airbus aircraft will come with an emergency descent feature for decompressions.
benthurston
Ben Thurston 4
Modern digital general aviation autopilots such as the Garmin GFC 500/600 or Avidyne DFC90/100 have the same feature--if the pilot is unresponsive for a given length of time at high altitude, suggesting hypoxia, the autopilot automatically descends the plane to an altitude where the pilot can recover.
rad2
Roger Deeringer 2
Yes, a well written article with a very informative video embedded. This could have saved Patrick Stewart and, perhaps, many more where the pilot falls over and is no longer capable of effective flight activity. Not a product to "replace" the pilot, but a useful backup system. Now, could a similar system prevent the Asiana 214 flop at SFO? Time will tell!!
bbabis
Bill Babis 3
I believe you mean Payne Stewart and yes it probably would have since this system can also do an emergency descent. There are plenty of instances that this system could have helped with if it had been around but now we'll soon learn what it can do.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 2
And I thought my G1000 was something in 2006.
bbabis
Bill Babis 1
I've got an opportunity to take an Autoland demo ride in the M600SLS next week. I hope it works out and if it does I will post my observations on this squawk or a new one.
DennisFernkes
Dennis Fernkes 1
Fascinating
AndrewHockings
Andrew Hockings 1
LMFAO after reading the thread starting from Chris B.

Viv, Jim and BT - you all called it correctly!!!!
benibaz
benibaz 1
Does Autoland unlock the cabin door to allow entry to the cockpit for a passenger to activate the system or monitor the PFD/MFD's?
SmokedChops
SmokedChops 1
very cool - like most emergency safety features, you hope you will never need it, but be grateful it is there when you hit the "Oh Sh.t" button on the panel. This type of safety feature most certainly would have been beneficial in preventing the loss of Payne Stewart's aircraft, unfortunately the occupants most likely would have still perished due to exposure and hypoxia. Hat tip to the engineers at Garmin for working on this.
Mmamidipelli96
Innovative invention.nice.
n555cf
rbt schaffer 1
When this system develops amnesia like MCAS just did, takes over and lands in downtown somewhere, then bye bye Garmin..... Be sure to put an OFF switch on that thing.
bbabis
Bill Babis 1
Please read the article before commenting.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
One of first things to learn as a pilot with an auto mated or computer driven system is how to shut it down. Usually there are multiple ways. The Max pilots apparantly were not informed according to the reporting.
W6cz
W6cz 1
(“Your aircraft ID is N60HL”)

It would be better if it said November Six One Hotel Lima.
gregmermel
Greg Mermel 3
But "November Six Zero Hotel Lima" would be correct.
lvenable
lvenable 2
Where's the One?
W6cz
W6cz 1
Ooops

But you get the idea
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
If you plug in the wrong code, does the wrong aircraft declare the emergency and autoland? Would that be pilot or programmer error?
CHBHA
CB HARDY 1
Isn't this needed more in small private planes where it seems to happen more often?
Hwyman
Ivan Cholakov 1
I wonder what happened with Diamond's autoland system
microflight
Jame Meer 0
Garmin’s announcement has the potential to make General Aviation 2 orders of magnitude safer. In reviewing NTSB records of accidents, the aircraft has been the cause of the accident only 3% of the time, with the pilot responsible 97% of the time. This potEntially makes the GA equipped aircraft as safe as Part 121 aircraft.
wecsam
David Tsai 1
It's even better in that a passenger just has to push one button. I don't know whether I would remember how to set up the ILS in a 737 in an emergency.
nasdisco
Chris B -4
Wonder if it squawks 7700...... It probably does. ATC would appreciate that was well.
benthurston
Ben Thurston 3
In a word, yes.
VivPike
Viv Pike 3
Did you read the article?
kd7eir
Jim Myers 5
It's too hard to actually READ. Making uninformed, incoherent, inane comments is all the mental energy that some can muster.
nasdisco
Chris B -3
I did. Its a horrible font choice that makes reading unnecessarily unlikable.
Dav5049915
Dav5049915 4
Horrible font choice? Are you reading it on a potato?
btweston
btweston 3
Hmm. So you didn’t read it, right?
patpylot
patrick baker -6
put your trust and faith into this at your peril. Give me a high time grey-haired pilot, male or female every single time, if you wish to have a noneventful flight.
bbabis
Bill Babis 4
Non-eventful flights are not guaranteed by any pilot particularly if that pilot has a medical emergency. Even if the pilot remains semi-conscious he/she could monitor the approach.
masonite
masonite 3
And what if that high time, gray haired pilot has a heart attack or a brain aneurysm? This isn't for everyday use. It's for emergencies.
wingbolt
wingbolt 0
Spend sometime on the NTSB website and you will answer your own question.
masonite
masonite 1
I don't have a question. It was rhetorical.
JMARTINSON
JMARTINSON -4
It's a safety feature, they better be giving them away for free.

Because we wouldn't want to have a double standard, now would we.
gcottay
George Cottay 4
"Piper Aircraft will make the system (branded Halo) standard in the new M600 SLS version of its single-engine turboprop."
TorstenHoff
Torsten Hoff 2
You mean like optional AOA indicators and disagree lights?

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