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One airline figured out how to make sure its airplanes never disappear
First Air, a Canadian airliner, flies across some of the most remote and sparsely populated areas on the continent, with routes going as far north as Resolute Bay, in the Arctic Circle. Its planes are often beyond the reach of conventional radar. They are also nearly disappearance-proof. (www.washingtonpost.com) More...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
I am no good on this tech ! But on cost-benefit aspect all this makes a lot of sense. Even the insurance premia may come down ! Or if the insurance companies choose not to slash premia , they may make some more profit annually ! And so will the airline owners in terms of opportunity costs for a lost aircraft and etcetra .
Like any other empathizing human , I can not put a monitory tag on human lives or injuries or pain that will be avoided.
Like any other empathizing human , I can not put a monitory tag on human lives or injuries or pain that will be avoided.
Spot could be a basic solution TN CAP uses Spot's during training and in some missions
We have that system, plus our sat-phones. When travelling over the pole - you need all the help you can get.
Hi Matt, you didn't mention which system you were referring to or your mode of transport or even which pole.
I hope you are not developing a false sense of security. If you are referring to what JW Smythe is talking about above, the Globalstar Spot, then you probably will not get any coverage at the poles, ref. Globalstar's coverage map on this web site: http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=108
However, I think the whole concept sounds very promissing because it appears that very large areas including many remote areas are covered. If the Globalstar or another similar system were able to provide the shown coverage, and automatically transmit location coordinates periodically e.g. every couple of minutes (not more than 5 minutes for high speed aircraft) then that would certainly make searching for lost aircraft and ships much, much easier at what appears to be a trivial cost.
If all airlines (or nearly all) were to adopt (or be forced to by governments) such systems, then the additional cost of sufficient satellites to cover the entire globe when shared out would become achievable.
I hope you are not developing a false sense of security. If you are referring to what JW Smythe is talking about above, the Globalstar Spot, then you probably will not get any coverage at the poles, ref. Globalstar's coverage map on this web site: http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=108
However, I think the whole concept sounds very promissing because it appears that very large areas including many remote areas are covered. If the Globalstar or another similar system were able to provide the shown coverage, and automatically transmit location coordinates periodically e.g. every couple of minutes (not more than 5 minutes for high speed aircraft) then that would certainly make searching for lost aircraft and ships much, much easier at what appears to be a trivial cost.
If all airlines (or nearly all) were to adopt (or be forced to by governments) such systems, then the additional cost of sufficient satellites to cover the entire globe when shared out would become achievable.
Sorry for the misspellings like Melinea air. They seem to happen faster than I can fix them. I guess my fingers got fat at Thanksgiving.
The data charges alone would be expensive. It could be said "It will cost too much.". The problem there is, we're talking about an aircraft with the new purchase price (in 2012) at $88,000,000 USD. In addition, there is the lives and safety of the passengers, crew, and cargo.
Something like Globalstar's "Spot" product is cheap, and would have been a tremendous benefit.
http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=109
With Globalstar Spot, it costs $100 for the device (currently on sale for $50). Basic service is $100/yr, which will send the updated location every 5 minutes. For $200/yr. Is the $100 hardware cost and $200/yr too expensive?! Versus the $88M aircraft? Aren't the passengers lives, and then timely updates to family who are wondering what was happening? If any of the families of passengers could go back in time, I'm sure *any* of them would throw $300 at it in a heart beat.
Iridium also has a variety of products for the same thing. They don't show the prices on the site, but Iridium is always more expensive than Globalstar. That was with good reason for years. Globalstar's coverage was frequently interrupted in service areas. Now that they've launched more satellites, they cover a good portion of the world.
Hell, I'm going on a cruise soon. I bought an old Globalstar sat phone, simply for the peace of mind that if something bad happens, I can call for help as soon as possible, rather than waiting for access to the onboard phones, or swimming impossible distances to shore to use a local line. Mostly, I expect to use it to have *my* phone ring, rather than running it through the ship's phones for a bazillion dollars a minute. :)