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787 Hydraulic Issues causes Missed Approach in Japan

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ANA said it has found first glitch in Boeing 787 Dreamliner An All Nippon Airways Co. Boeing Co. 787 Dreamliner carrying 249 people had to make a second approach at a west Japan airport before landing, after a glitch forced the pilot to manually deploy the main landing gear, the airline said Monday. The first glitch on a commercial flight for the new plane occurred on a domestic route Sunday after a cockpit monitor showed that the landing gear hadn't fully deployed shortly before landing,… (www.chicagotribune.com) Altro...

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StymieHo
Much better example. Staggering amounts of money spent on research and testing due to the importance of getting it right the first time. Nothing like a car.
tagalong2102
car industry is the same way...example rolls royce, ferrari, porsche,maybauch,audi, etc, etc,etc,....
tagalong2102
be realistic....built by humans....nothing can be built perfect from the outset... the shuttle for example.
StymieHo
You don't get that leeway. Its not a Ford.
tagalong2102
just like a new car gotta work out the bugs the first few months.
tagalong2102
just like a new car gotta work out the bugs. you can,t find everything out before you deliver a new model!
jfstein04
john stein 0
jbarragan79
Let's see if the next ones don't come with the same diffect
ritalammers
Hey you Guys, I read all your comments, just be thankful that the plane landed safely!
denis38
Must be cold and windy when the pilot has to climb out of the cockpit and manually deploy the gear.
chalet
chalet 0
Chris don't worry I won't tell anybody about it nor that you are an secretely employed blogger of an unnamed airframe maker based East of the Atlantic Ocean, north of the Mediterranean and south of the English Channel.
StymieHo
Chalet, if you are not a Boeing Homer, then the comment wasn't directed towards you. Just relax and let me get em all riled up. That's the purpose of it anyway. Im sure Boeing released a fine addition to their product line, but don't tell anyone.
chalet
chalet 0
Chris I don't work for Boeing nor am I a Boeing homer, I just try to submit balanced comments on both lines, the Seattle line and the Toulouse/Hamburgh line so save your rash judgements for whoever else. I don't think that the 787 is a piece of manure, granted it is capable of meeting the performance and reliability guarantees extended to the operators and I am sure that it will. Having said that Airbus' latest jetliner the 350, which will enter into service at least 18 months behind the original delivery schedules, will undergo the same teething problems of any new product and so what.
StymieHo
Look folks, I dig the Made In America sentiment and all that jazz, but you King Co. Homers are making fools of yourselves by shrugging off this so-called glitch. Glitch, problem, whatever you want to call it. FIRST TRIP OUT OF THE GATE, as Ken so aptly puts it... That is absolutely embarassing and if any of you Homers actually work for Boeing, you should give back your last three months pay because you guys just rolled out a glorified piece of shit.
politiri
Dont ya love it. All these BOING lovers say it is to be expected.....but not on the first trip out of the gate. SO, maybe now they will layoff the A380 for a week or two. Lets see what else comes up over the next month from an AC that was rushed into service after 3 years of delays.
StymieHo
Now you've done it Ken... Roll up your windows and lock your doors the next time you drive thru King County. The natives are restless...lol
MichaelFoster
I think most would agree that it is very sad that there are only two major players in large commercial carrier aircraft. No more Lockheed, No more MD, etc....
rick737
As one of many who flew Boeing aircraft for many years, I can attest to the quality of their product. In 18,000 hours in B737's I had one fuel pump quit, a flap motor failure, one CSD disconnect, and a blown tire. Not bad. To imply that Boeing would push a product out the door prematurely, says more about you than it does about Boeing.
StymieHo
I agree Roger. It would be a component failure, not a design flaw. I just wanted to poke fun at all the Boeing Homers in this forum, who rightly back their company. However, they also deal an unfair amount of "sore loser" sentiment towards any Airbus glitch, primarily the A380, a program that has put Boeing on its heels by beating the ever-living shit out of them to a virtually untapped market niche.
organfreak
You've got to be kidding! Cite, please. I can, but won't.
rad2
The article cites a faulty valve. I read that as component failure, not design or manufacturing fault. Parts fail. That is why there are backup systems and status monitors. Replace the part, analyse the bad components, address any issues and move on.

Why is it that for every glitch, people have to jump around, point fingers and make some political statement, before all the facts are known.
StymieHo
No big deal? Sounds like downplay from another of the many Boeing Homers in this forum. Had the incident occurred on an A380, you would have ridiculed their program once again.
suranjan
Nothing is perfect and there are so many things that can go wrong with any system or a process. The important thing is to have alternative processes for all the key functions of the air craft.

As per Murphy's law "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong".
rick737
The fact that a 767 and a 787 had a landing gear malfunction a week apart is about as relevent as whether the mechanic who tightened the lug nuts was union or non-union. More boring news accounts from untrained, so called journalist. I hope those fools don't read this they might want to investigate that fact.
dardav
dardav 0
Actually the article never used the term "missed approach" rather used the "had to make a second approach". The writer never said is was a missed approach, so reporting it as they did was simply what happened. Sometimes we are too quick to judge.
MichaelFoster
Actually, the title of the article is "Missed Approach".....
bishops90
Donald, surely you don't expect The Chicago Tribune to know the difference? :)
planeman33
missed approach,I thought it was more of a go around?
indy2001
indy2001 0
As the LOT 767 demonstrated, even established aircraft types will have the occasional glitch. It would be interesting to learn whether the 787 problem was a faulty sensor, or if the gear actually did not fully deploy. Unfortunately, the media generally aren't interested in following up stories these days.
chalet
chalet 0
No big deal here, the usual teething problems whenever a new aircraft enters into service, in this case the ANA and Boeing Tech Reps will have it fixed shortly and send it away to continue earning its keep and gathering more experience.

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