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Southwest grounds two 737NG due to cracked pickle forks

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Pickle forks are supposed to last the life of the plane, and now there's a 5% early failure rate. This is terrible news for Southwest and other carriers that are heavily invested in 737's. (komonews.com) Altro...

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jcisuclones
I'm not too familiar with maintenance of aircraft, so I initially thought this was satire and they were referring to eating utensils.
jbsimms
James Simms 16
Someone’s in a pickle over this......

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nasdisco
Chris B 7
Betting that the FAA will require much more frequent checks of the PF's even after this initial emergency AD.
GaAubie
Ken Hardy 6
ANY crack is a propagating defect and on a primary wing structure is damn important, it can be the result of several things, improper material, improper heat treat, improper installation. cracks in Aluminum aircraft structure are not unusual but they never heal themselves and the AD was called for.
FedExCargoPilot
probably due to excessive loads on landing...
captrags80
Or braking ; )
pr0ject
El Kabong 3
Mentour Pilot explains the situation. It's not as drastic as you might think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uMtnh7th_U
DGR54Rathborne
As i am not knowledgeable about Pickle Forks , i just finished watching Mentor Pilot . While it clarifies what is of concern in this AD , i'd like to know how you permanently repair alleged one inch cracks in a very thick slab of a Pickle Fork ? Any thoughts , i'd like to hear from you ........DGR
jollyroger23
Im checking my spoons and knives. its just too dangerous to eat pickles with a fork anymore.
allanrbowman
With cracked pickle forks, it is reasonable to assume that the pickles currently up Boeing Managements behinds will be staying put.
Flightdog
Wouldn't it be easier to simply stop serving pickles? OK, having written that I will now go and actually read the article to find out that a pickle fork has absolutely nothing to do with gherkins.
quena
Does anyone know who produces the pickleforks?
DGR54Rathborne
Hi Quentin ....I did a Google search and found nothing about who makes them , but a lot on what a PF is . I suppose the Forks are manufactured by a Sub-Contractor who really wants to remain un-known at this time .
nasdisco
Chris B 1
just under 5% proven failure rate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HprNMrjK6_I

FAA http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgad.nsf/0/b7003a93c909869e8625848800467eb9/$FILE/2019-20-02.pdf
666adt
"There could be dire results if the pickle fork system on the jet fails in flight."

"Could" be? Is it possible that a pickle fork fails and the result is *not* dire? I don't know aviation, so that's not a sarcastic question. I'm wondering whether the so-called journalist should've used the word "would" instead of "could"?
JMARTINSON
JMARTINSON 1
So, Andrew, do you expect this so-called journalist to also be a qualified engineer or also be a certifiable lunatic (with the ability to see into the future)?

A journalist doesn't need to know aviation (or the economy, or law, or medicine). What they need to know is journalism, which is exactly what would prevent them from drawing a conclusion like the one you just asked for.
DGR54Rathborne
What worries me about the PF failing is this . If one of the 4 involved does " snap " or " cracks " clean through ,will the load transfer cause the 3 others , to potentially fail ? Any ideas ? Please let me know .........DGR
DGR54Rathborne
Are you aware that on Friday evening , Boeing's CEO and Chairman Mr. Dennis Muilburg , was removed by the Board of Directors . Mr . Muilburg has been asked to stay on in another capacity , overseeing the Max and NG problems . While this was offered , i do not know if he has or will accept the offer .........DGR
htthree
Hmmmm...I flew SW just under 2 weeks ago. The plane I was to fly in was taken OOS when it arrived at my departing airport. As a result my flight was delayed 3 hours while we waited for another plane to arrive from another state. I wonder if this had anything to do with it?
krh104
Ken Hudson 1
Only a problem in 1st class
k2epm
k2epm 1
Were those pickle forks dill or sour?
punkrawk78
Silent Bob 0
So SWA has over 700 NG airplanes, and yet grounding 2 of those 700 is "terrible" news?! Holy misleading headline Batman!
Relics
Relics 5
2 planes or 20, yes it’s terrible news.
JMARTINSON
JMARTINSON 1
So what would you call, say, 350 planes then?

50%, wow, that is terrible, horrible, no good, very bad news.
btweston
btweston 6
That word is not in the headline, Robin. Go back and sit in the car.
JMARTINSON
JMARTINSON 1
Technically it's not a headline, it's a title. Go back and sit in the car.
silcalifano
Airplanes in service have problems all the time. This was obviously caught during inspection, will be submitted to Boeing or private engineering for a fix and will probably fly for many more years.
captsands
R T Sands 0
Airplanes break. Thats what pilots, mechanics and lawyers are for. Next crisis please.
alan75035
alan75035 0
A real dilly.
darjr26
darjr26 0
Airbus.
BluSTi
Something, something, A380 wing spars something, something...
darjr26
darjr26 2
You’re right, I don’t think Southwest should buy A380’s
BluSTi
Nobody is.
andyc852
Nose gear mount/strut?
btweston
btweston 4
”A pickle fork is the part that helps attach a plane's fuselage to its wing structure.”

You’ll never guess where I found that information.
boughbw
boughbw 6
Cucumber Digest?
wwharris
See this for more explanation: https://leehamnews.com/2019/09/30/boeings-737-in-another-pickle/

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